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  1. Tim kelly
    November 22, 2018

    Trying to get my head round this, Am i right in thinking that, just because an insurer has recovered it’s losses that have been subrogated to by it’s customer, it does not preclude the customer(plaintiff) for making a claim for their un-insured losses?
    A Claim cannot be made at this point for something that has already been claimed in the previous action by the insurer, but the consumer cannot be denied the entitlement for something for which has not yet been claimed?
    Where would this stand with a Claim for “diminution” where the insurer has claimed for the diminished value to the chattel and evidenced the cost of repair, but the consumer then wishes to claim for “diminution in loss” re “payton v brooks”. Could a consumer be Estoped from making a claim under this header? My understanding is that this would need to be claimed at the same time, but as Insurer’s do not cover Diminution as part of the contract of insurance,they will not claim back from an at fault insurer,would this not be prejudicing the claimants later claim?

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    • Andrew Hogan
      November 25, 2018

      One claimant has one claim. If his insurers use his name as they are entitled to do under subrogated rights, to make a claim and don’t include his uninsured losses within that claim, and if that claim proceeds to trial and judgment, he can’t bring a second set of proceedings for his uninsured losses. Where it gets interesting is when the first set of proceedings is compromised before trial, and whether that precludes a second set of proceedings from being brought either because the second set will be an abuse of process or the compromise as made was a once and for all settlement of everything. And that will depend on the facts of an individual case.

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  2. Tim Kelly
    November 26, 2018

    Many thanks for that. I see many an insurer acting in Conflict to the insured interest for example in agreeing on 50% 50% as they cannot be bothered defending a claim, that has the potential to affect PI claims, Loss of use and Diminution. It also gets very confusing when at fault insurers also advise they are defending on the basis of “fundamental dishonesty” on one part of the claim(for example, not happy with repairs on a vehicle being related) and how that affects exactly what you have mentioned above in precluding a second set of proceedings from being brought for PI. Thanks for my continuing education! I have learned a lot from you.

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  3. Jonathan McKeown
    December 4, 2018

    Andrew,

    If you promptly write to the defendant and clearly set out that you are issuing proceedings for say loss of use and vehicle damage only initially but that later you will be issuing proceedings for general damages would that not be acceptable as there was no attempt to drip feed unending litigation nor ambush or surprise the Defendant over the subsequent proceedings. Hence the second set of proceedings are not an abuse of process.

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    • Andrew Hogan
      December 4, 2018

      If in an accident, a vehicle is damaged and a person suffers personal injury, then he has two causes of action. See Boot v Conquer [1928] 2 K.B. 336. However an element of both causes of action is the same: alleged negligent driving on the part of the defendant. If two sets of proceedings are issued, then the first one to proceed to judgment will establish an issue estoppel, on whether the defendant was in fact negligent, which will bind the second action. But I don’t think matters get that far. The logical thing is for a direction to be made for both proceedings to be tried at the same time or consolidated. The claimant will be at risk of a strike out however if the first action is settled and then the second issued. I don’t think the “broad merits based test” gives a claimant carte blanche to issue as and when convenient.

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